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==The Main Idea== | ==The Main Idea== | ||
===A Mathematical Model== | The electric field of a charged disk can be understood as the total electric field produced by all of the small pieces of charge on the disk. By using the Law of Superposition, we can treat the disk as many thin charged rings and add their electric field contributions together. Because the disk is symmetric, the sideways components of the electric field cancel along the central axis, leaving only a field in the z-direction. This idea is especially useful for understanding capacitors, since two oppositely charged metal disks or plates can create a nearly constant electric field between them. | ||
===A Mathematical Model=== | |||
Before we begin our calculations, take a look at this image of a uniformly charged disk: | Before we begin our calculations, take a look at this image of a uniformly charged disk: | ||
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This is the most commonly seen form of this equation, and becomes very important when applied to the case of capacitors. A key aspect of the field in these situations is the fact that it's constant in space between two charged plates. This unique aspect of capacitors, which does not occur for any other type of charged geometry, allows for several novel applications. | This is the most commonly seen form of this equation, and becomes very important when applied to the case of capacitors. A key aspect of the field in these situations is the fact that it's constant in space between two charged plates. This unique aspect of capacitors, which does not occur for any other type of charged geometry, allows for several novel applications. | ||
===Another Mathematical Derivation=== | |||
The previous section showed how to derive the formula for the electric field of a disk by setting dq as a ring. However, it is possible to arrive at the same formula by setting dq to be a square, with one side of length rdθ and the other side being of length dr. | |||
[https://www.glowscript.org/#/user/vritpatel/folder/MyPrograms/program/Wiki Computational Code] confirms that this method of derivation returns the expected values, pointing in the correct, expected direction. | |||
This method involves the computation of a double-integral. While it is significantly harder to derive the formula using this method (and isn't expected to be known in the scope of PHYS 2212), this method is still valid. This example is meant to show that in physics, there can be multiple avenues by which to solve the same exact problem, some easier than others. | |||
This derivation will account for the properties of the disk. For example, the derivation will show that the x and y-components of the Electrical field will go to 0, due to the symmetry of the charged disk. The direction of the electrical field will depend on the charge of the disk. The derivation of the magnitude of the Electrical field of a disk is shown below using this new method. | |||
[[File:Vrits2ndDerivation.jpeg]] | |||
===A Computational Model=== | ===A Computational Model=== | ||
Link to Computational Model: https://trinket.io/embed/glowscript/7298995b3d04 | |||
Users can drag around and zoom in and out to see different views of the model. | |||
The code sets up the charged disk as a flat circular surface made of many small cyan points. Each cyan point represents a small piece of charge on the disk. The program then uses superposition by calculating the electric field contribution from each small charge piece and adding those contributions together. | |||
The yellow arrows are placed at fixed sample locations to show the general electric field pattern around the disk. The red points are movable observation points, and each red point has an orange arrow attached to it. These orange arrows show the electric field at those specific observation locations. | |||
The slider controls the z-distance from the disk. When the slider is moved, the red points shift to a new distance from the disk, and the code recalculates the electric field at each point. The orange arrows then update their direction and length, so the simulation shows both how the field points and how its strength changes with distance. | |||
==Examples== | ==Examples== | ||
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===Simple=== | ===Simple=== | ||
In what circumstance would you not use the approximate formula for calculating the electric field and have to use another formula? | In what circumstance would you not use the approximate formula for calculating the electric field and have to use another formula? | ||
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[[File:circle_4.png|300px|thumb|Figure 2: Easy problem #1]] | [[File:circle_4.png|300px|thumb|Figure 2: Easy problem #1]] | ||
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This question is important, as this situation can come up a lot when solving physics problem. Remember that in the special case <math> 0 << z << R </math>, you are allowed to use the approximate formula. But if that second condition, <math> z << R </math>, is not true, then you must use the exact formula (listed above). Or, if <math> 0 << z </math>, you also must use the exact formula, as then the observation location is relatively far from the disk. So it is important to look at your <math> z </math> value when you decide which equation to use when finding the electric field of a uniformly charged disk. | This question is important, as this situation can come up a lot when solving physics problem. Remember that in the special case <math> 0 << z << R </math>, you are allowed to use the approximate formula. But if that second condition, <math> z << R </math>, is not true, then you must use the exact formula (listed above). Or, if <math> 0 << z </math>, you also must use the exact formula, as then the observation location is relatively far from the disk. So it is important to look at your <math> z </math> value when you decide which equation to use when finding the electric field of a uniformly charged disk. | ||
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===Medium=== | |||
[[File:circle_3.png|300px|thumb|Figure 3: Middling problem #2]] | [[File:circle_3.png|300px|thumb|Figure 3: Middling problem #2]] | ||
A thin plastic disk, with it's center on the origin, and a of radius 0.4 m is uniformly charged with charge <math> Q = -4 * 10^{-7} C</math>. What is the electric field of this disk at a location <math> <0,0,0.04> </math>m? | A thin plastic disk, with it's center on the origin, and a of radius 0.4 m is uniformly charged with charge <math> Q = -4 * 10^{-7} C</math>. What is the electric field of this disk at a location <math> <0,0,0.04> </math>m? | ||
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<div style="font-weight:bold;line-height:1.6;">Solution</div> | |||
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This is a a pretty simple problem, as <math> 0 << z << R </math>, so you can use the approximate formula: | This is a a pretty simple problem, as <math> 0 << z << R </math>, so you can use the approximate formula: | ||
<math> \ E = \frac{4 * 10^{-7}}{2\epsilon_0π*(0.4)^{2}} = 4.5 * 10^{4} N/C </math> | <math> \ E = \frac{4 * 10^{-7}}{2\epsilon_0π*(0.4)^{2}} = 4.5 * 10^{4} N/C </math> | ||
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===Medium=== | |||
A thin plastic disk, with its center at the origin and radius <math>0.60</math> m, is uniformly charged with charge <math>Q = 3.0 \times 10^{-6} C</math>. What is the electric field of this disk at a location <math><0,0,0.20></math> m? | |||
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Since <math>z = 0.20</math> m is not much smaller than <math>R = 0.60</math> m, we should use the full formula: | |||
<math> E = \frac{1}{2\epsilon_0}\frac{Q}{\pi R^2}\left[1 - \frac{z}{(R^2 + z^2)^{1/2}}\right]</math> | |||
<math> E = \frac{1}{2\epsilon_0}\frac{3.0 \times 10^{-6}}{\pi(0.60)^2}\left[1 - \frac{0.20}{((0.60)^2 + (0.20)^2)^{1/2}}\right]</math> | |||
<math> E = 1.04 \times 10^5 \ N/C </math> | |||
Since the disk is positively charged, the electric field points in the positive z-direction. | |||
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===Difficult=== | ===Difficult=== | ||
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A thin plastic disk located with a center at <math> <0.1, 0.25, 0> </math> m is uniformly charged with an excess of <math>7.46 * 10^{-6} </math> electrons. Find the radius of the disk if it generates an electric field of <math> E = 2.2 * 10^{3} N/C </math> at a location of <math> <0.1, -0.5, 0> </math> m? | A thin plastic disk located with a center at <math> <0.1, 0.25, 0> </math> m is uniformly charged with an excess of <math>7.46 * 10^{-6} </math> electrons. Find the radius of the disk if it generates an electric field of <math> E = 2.2 * 10^{3} N/C </math> at a location of <math> <0.1, -0.5, 0> </math> m? | ||
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Since we don't know the radius of the disk, we cannot be sure that using the approximation would be accurate, because we don't know if <math> z << R </math>. We must use the full formula, | Since we don't know the radius of the disk, we cannot be sure that using the approximation would be accurate, because we don't know if <math> z << R </math>. We must use the full formula, | ||
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We calculate <math> R = 3.13 </math>, which has a significant amount of error from the original formula calculation. This indicates that using the approximation in this scenario would not have been appropriate. | We calculate <math> R = 3.13 </math>, which has a significant amount of error from the original formula calculation. This indicates that using the approximation in this scenario would not have been appropriate. | ||
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==Connectedness== | ==Connectedness== | ||
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'''Charged Disks in Television''' | '''Charged Disks in Television''' | ||
Capacitors and charged plates used to play a heavy role in televisions! Charged plates were used to accelerate electrons, which were then manipulated and directed by magnetic fields to control what area of the television screen they would strike. As they hit the screen, a certain chemical would glow a specific color, generating an image. So every time you woke up early on saturday morning (before the advent of flat screen televisions), your episodes of Spongebob and Fairly OddParents was brought to you by capacitors! | Capacitors and charged plates used to play a heavy role in televisions! Charged plates were used to accelerate electrons, which were then manipulated and directed by magnetic fields to control what area of the television screen they would strike. As they hit the screen, a certain chemical would glow a specific color, generating an image. So every time you woke up early on saturday morning (before the advent of flat screen televisions), your episodes of Spongebob and Fairly OddParents was brought to you by capacitors! | ||
'''Charged Disks in Chemical Engineering''' | '''Charged Disks in Chemical Engineering''' | ||
The electric fields of capacitors may seem completely unrelated to chemical engineering. But actually, there are a surprising number of applications within chemical engineering. For example, much of the instrumentation used in chemical processes rely on capacitors and their ability to generate constant electric fields between two charged plates. | The electric fields of capacitors may seem completely unrelated to chemical engineering. But actually, there are a surprising number of applications within chemical engineering. For example, much of the instrumentation used in chemical processes rely on capacitors and their ability to generate constant electric fields between two charged plates. | ||
'''Industrial Applications''' | '''Industrial Applications''' | ||
One of the primary careers in chemical engineering focuses on operating, maintaining, and optimizing a chemical plant or refinery. In a refinery, there are thousands of things you have to monitor throughout the plant. Every pipe and vessel holding liquid or gas is susceptible to corrosion, and any breach in containment could jeapordize thousands of lives. One of the most common causes of corrosion is ionic contaminants in water. Before a method was found to monitor and troubleshoot the ion concentrations in water, there were numerous dangerous corrosion events that put people's lives in danger. | One of the primary careers in chemical engineering focuses on operating, maintaining, and optimizing a chemical plant or refinery. In a refinery, there are thousands of things you have to monitor throughout the plant. Every pipe and vessel holding liquid or gas is susceptible to corrosion, and any breach in containment could jeapordize thousands of lives. One of the most common causes of corrosion is ionic contaminants in water. Before a method was found to monitor and troubleshoot the ion concentrations in water, there were numerous dangerous corrosion events that put people's lives in danger. | ||
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*[https://www.webassign.net/ebooks/mi4/toc.html? Matter and Interactions 3rd Edition] | *[https://www.webassign.net/ebooks/mi4/toc.html? Matter and Interactions 3rd Edition] | ||
===External | ===External links=== | ||
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5UyXkFCg5s Video: Electric Field Due to a Charged Disk, Infinite Sheet of Charge, Parallel Plates - Physics Problems] | |||
*[http://www.physics.udel.edu/~watson/phys208/exercises/kevan/efield1.html Solved problems for the electric field of a ring, disk, and plane] | |||
==References== | |||
*[https://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulations/category/physics PhET Simulations] | *[https://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulations/category/physics PhET Simulations] | ||
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*[http://www.phy.uct.ac.za/demonline/virtual/index-e.html VPython Physics Programs] | *[http://www.phy.uct.ac.za/demonline/virtual/index-e.html VPython Physics Programs] | ||
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor Further Online Reading] | *[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor Further Online Reading] | ||
*Note: all images were created by author | *Note: all images were created by author | ||
[[Category:What category did you place this in?]] | [[Category:What category did you place this in?]] | ||
Latest revision as of 21:09, 25 April 2026
Claimed by Pranav Narala (Spring 2026)
The Main Idea
The electric field of a charged disk can be understood as the total electric field produced by all of the small pieces of charge on the disk. By using the Law of Superposition, we can treat the disk as many thin charged rings and add their electric field contributions together. Because the disk is symmetric, the sideways components of the electric field cancel along the central axis, leaving only a field in the z-direction. This idea is especially useful for understanding capacitors, since two oppositely charged metal disks or plates can create a nearly constant electric field between them.
A Mathematical Model
Before we begin our calculations, take a look at this image of a uniformly charged disk:

This image shows a visual representation of a disk. It should look pretty familiar. In fact, the shape of a disk is simply an extension of a ring. Think of it as infinitely many uniformly charged rings. Thinking of a disk this way will help to understand the equation of the electric field for a uniformly charged disk.
Recall the equation for the electric field of a uniformly charged ring:
[math]\displaystyle{ \ E= \frac{1}{4π\epsilon_0}\frac{qz}{(R^2+z^2)^{3/2}} }[/math]
This equation will tell you the electric field of a uniformly charged ring at any observation location z. To apply this equation to a disk, integration will be involved. The integration variable in this case should be the radius of the ring [math]\displaystyle{ r }[/math], as that will change with the infinitely many concentric rings you have. However, [math]\displaystyle{ r }[/math] is nowhere to be found in the equation. But if the radius of each ring is different, what gets affected as a result?
[math]\displaystyle{ \ dq = Q\frac{area of ring}{area of disk} = \frac{π((r+dr)^2-r^2)}{πR^2} = \frac{π(r^2 - r^2 +2r*dr+ dr^2)}{πR^2} }[/math]
We assume that [math]\displaystyle{ dr^2 }[/math] is essentially zero compared to the non-squared differential term.
[math]\displaystyle{ dq= Q\frac{2πrdr}{πr^2} }[/math]
Here you see that the charge of each ring is different due to the changing radius. The charge changes by a factor of the area of the ring, [math]\displaystyle{ 2πrdr }[/math], (if you roll out the ring, it is a rectangle with height [math]\displaystyle{ dr }[/math] and width [math]\displaystyle{ 2πr }[/math]) divided by the area of the disk, [math]\displaystyle{ πr^2 }[/math]. Plugging that in for the q variable in our integration, and then cancelling out some variables, will allow us to solve for the electric field of a disk:
[math]\displaystyle{ \ dE = \frac{1}{2\epsilon_0}\frac{Q}{πR^2}\frac{zrdr}{(R^2+z^2)^{3/2}} }[/math]
Now we take the integral of this equation, and the result is this:
[math]\displaystyle{ \ E = \frac{1}{2\epsilon_0}\frac{Q}{πR^2}[1 - \frac{z}{(R^2+z^2)^{1/2}}] }[/math]
Thus, we have the equation that finds us the exact electric potential of a uniformly charged disk. You can still make approximations to make the formula simpler, however. If your observation location z is very close to the disk but not touching it, and is also significantly smaller than the radius of the disk (i.e. [math]\displaystyle{ 0 \lt \lt z \lt \lt R }[/math]), the equation becomes this:
[math]\displaystyle{ \ E = \frac{Q}{2\epsilon_0A} }[/math]
This is the most commonly seen form of this equation, and becomes very important when applied to the case of capacitors. A key aspect of the field in these situations is the fact that it's constant in space between two charged plates. This unique aspect of capacitors, which does not occur for any other type of charged geometry, allows for several novel applications.
Another Mathematical Derivation
The previous section showed how to derive the formula for the electric field of a disk by setting dq as a ring. However, it is possible to arrive at the same formula by setting dq to be a square, with one side of length rdθ and the other side being of length dr.
Computational Code confirms that this method of derivation returns the expected values, pointing in the correct, expected direction.
This method involves the computation of a double-integral. While it is significantly harder to derive the formula using this method (and isn't expected to be known in the scope of PHYS 2212), this method is still valid. This example is meant to show that in physics, there can be multiple avenues by which to solve the same exact problem, some easier than others.
This derivation will account for the properties of the disk. For example, the derivation will show that the x and y-components of the Electrical field will go to 0, due to the symmetry of the charged disk. The direction of the electrical field will depend on the charge of the disk. The derivation of the magnitude of the Electrical field of a disk is shown below using this new method.
A Computational Model
Link to Computational Model: https://trinket.io/embed/glowscript/7298995b3d04
Users can drag around and zoom in and out to see different views of the model.
The code sets up the charged disk as a flat circular surface made of many small cyan points. Each cyan point represents a small piece of charge on the disk. The program then uses superposition by calculating the electric field contribution from each small charge piece and adding those contributions together.
The yellow arrows are placed at fixed sample locations to show the general electric field pattern around the disk. The red points are movable observation points, and each red point has an orange arrow attached to it. These orange arrows show the electric field at those specific observation locations.
The slider controls the z-distance from the disk. When the slider is moved, the red points shift to a new distance from the disk, and the code recalculates the electric field at each point. The orange arrows then update their direction and length, so the simulation shows both how the field points and how its strength changes with distance.
Examples
Simple
In what circumstance would you not use the approximate formula for calculating the electric field and have to use another formula?

This question is important, as this situation can come up a lot when solving physics problem. Remember that in the special case [math]\displaystyle{ 0 \lt \lt z \lt \lt R }[/math], you are allowed to use the approximate formula. But if that second condition, [math]\displaystyle{ z \lt \lt R }[/math], is not true, then you must use the exact formula (listed above). Or, if [math]\displaystyle{ 0 \lt \lt z }[/math], you also must use the exact formula, as then the observation location is relatively far from the disk. So it is important to look at your [math]\displaystyle{ z }[/math] value when you decide which equation to use when finding the electric field of a uniformly charged disk.
Medium

A thin plastic disk, with it's center on the origin, and a of radius 0.4 m is uniformly charged with charge [math]\displaystyle{ Q = -4 * 10^{-7} C }[/math]. What is the electric field of this disk at a location [math]\displaystyle{ \lt 0,0,0.04\gt }[/math]m?
This is a a pretty simple problem, as [math]\displaystyle{ 0 \lt \lt z \lt \lt R }[/math], so you can use the approximate formula:
[math]\displaystyle{ \ E = \frac{4 * 10^{-7}}{2\epsilon_0π*(0.4)^{2}} = 4.5 * 10^{4} N/C }[/math]
Medium
A thin plastic disk, with its center at the origin and radius [math]\displaystyle{ 0.60 }[/math] m, is uniformly charged with charge [math]\displaystyle{ Q = 3.0 \times 10^{-6} C }[/math]. What is the electric field of this disk at a location [math]\displaystyle{ \lt 0,0,0.20\gt }[/math] m?
Since [math]\displaystyle{ z = 0.20 }[/math] m is not much smaller than [math]\displaystyle{ R = 0.60 }[/math] m, we should use the full formula:
[math]\displaystyle{ E = \frac{1}{2\epsilon_0}\frac{Q}{\pi R^2}\left[1 - \frac{z}{(R^2 + z^2)^{1/2}}\right] }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ E = \frac{1}{2\epsilon_0}\frac{3.0 \times 10^{-6}}{\pi(0.60)^2}\left[1 - \frac{0.20}{((0.60)^2 + (0.20)^2)^{1/2}}\right] }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ E = 1.04 \times 10^5 \ N/C }[/math]
Since the disk is positively charged, the electric field points in the positive z-direction.
Difficult

A thin plastic disk located with a center at [math]\displaystyle{ \lt 0.1, 0.25, 0\gt }[/math] m is uniformly charged with an excess of [math]\displaystyle{ 7.46 * 10^{-6} }[/math] electrons. Find the radius of the disk if it generates an electric field of [math]\displaystyle{ E = 2.2 * 10^{3} N/C }[/math] at a location of [math]\displaystyle{ \lt 0.1, -0.5, 0\gt }[/math] m?
Since we don't know the radius of the disk, we cannot be sure that using the approximation would be accurate, because we don't know if [math]\displaystyle{ z \lt \lt R }[/math]. We must use the full formula,
[math]\displaystyle{ E = \frac{1}{2\epsilon_0}\frac{Q}{πR^2}[1 - \frac{z}{(R^2+z^2)^{1/2}}] }[/math]
We start by calculating Q, knowing that [math]\displaystyle{ Q = e * -1.602 * 10^{-19} = -1.2 * 10^{-6} C }[/math]
Next, we find z, which is essentially the distance from the center of the disk to the observation point.
[math]\displaystyle{ z = mag( \lt 0.1, -0.5, 0\gt - \lt 0.1, 0.25, 0\gt ) = 0.75 }[/math]
Finally, we use the original equation for electric field to solve for R. [math]\displaystyle{ R = 2.6 }[/math] m. If we solve it using the approximated formula,
[math]\displaystyle{ E = \frac{Q}{2\epsilon_0A} }[/math]
We calculate [math]\displaystyle{ R = 3.13 }[/math], which has a significant amount of error from the original formula calculation. This indicates that using the approximation in this scenario would not have been appropriate.
Connectedness
Uniformly charged disks are a fundamental component to capacitors (which is two disks placed parallel to each other), which are found everywhere in physics courses as well as the real world. They are key parts of LC circuits, RC circuits, batteries, signal processing, and can even produce light.
Charged Disks in Television
Capacitors and charged plates used to play a heavy role in televisions! Charged plates were used to accelerate electrons, which were then manipulated and directed by magnetic fields to control what area of the television screen they would strike. As they hit the screen, a certain chemical would glow a specific color, generating an image. So every time you woke up early on saturday morning (before the advent of flat screen televisions), your episodes of Spongebob and Fairly OddParents was brought to you by capacitors!
Charged Disks in Chemical Engineering
The electric fields of capacitors may seem completely unrelated to chemical engineering. But actually, there are a surprising number of applications within chemical engineering. For example, much of the instrumentation used in chemical processes rely on capacitors and their ability to generate constant electric fields between two charged plates.
Industrial Applications
One of the primary careers in chemical engineering focuses on operating, maintaining, and optimizing a chemical plant or refinery. In a refinery, there are thousands of things you have to monitor throughout the plant. Every pipe and vessel holding liquid or gas is susceptible to corrosion, and any breach in containment could jeapordize thousands of lives. One of the most common causes of corrosion is ionic contaminants in water. Before a method was found to monitor and troubleshoot the ion concentrations in water, there were numerous dangerous corrosion events that put people's lives in danger.
Now, we monitor the conductivity of water in a refinery. This is done using CAPACITORS. Essentially, capacitors are used to monitor the changing electric field and dielectric properties of the water running through it. This data is then analyzed to find the amount of ionic contaminant in the water, allowing the chemical engineer to prevent corrosion at the source.
History
The first capacitor was invented in 1746. It was called the Leyden Jar, and it was essentially a glass jar wrapped in aluminum on both sides. They were used initially to store charge, almost as a battery. With the advent of radio technologies, capacitors played a key role in producing and receiving radio signals. Thus, they were heavily improved due to the demand from the radio industry.

As technology progressed, capacitors were developed that were smaller and more compact, allowing broad uses and applications. These ranged from diverse circuits to incredibly powerful transmitters.
See also
Further reading
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References
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